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Thursday, November 19, 2009

Cut, Uncut

My last post got me thinking a lot about weaners. Don't you love that word, 'Weaner'? It just sounds so silly coming out of the mouth, like you should be making a goofy, pursed-lipped face while saying it. WEEEEEANERRRR.

I should probably specify that I'm not talking weaners that you cook outside on the grill and eat with ketchup. No, ma'am. I mean the human kind. I am talking about penises.

Once I babysat a kid who called his penis his "Weanis", like a combination of 'weaner' and 'penis'. I think that his parents were just cruel to teach him that, since surely the first time he refers to his equipment as a 'Weanis' in junior high school, he will fall victim to a vicious (and perhaps well-deserved) locker room beatdown.

Anyway, penises, yeah. I've been thinking a lot about them, lately. Actually, I've specifically been I've been thinking about circumcision. To cut or not to cut?

I worried, when I was pregnant, that I would have trouble making that decision if I had a boy. Luckily, Lily came out with girl parts so I was off the hook, but if I ever had another baby and it happened to be male, would I snip off his foreskin? If so, why?

So far the only (sorta sensible) argument I can find IN FAVOR OF circumcising is one that says, hey, most guys are circumcised, and an uncircumcised penis looks weird. Moms I know who have opted to snip the skin have said, "I want him to look like his dad. I want him to not feel self-conscious when he gets older and sees that other penises don't look like his".

OK. Here's what I wonder though: Do guys really compare dicks with their dads? Or with other dudes? Because I can say with total honesty that I have never really thought about my vagina in terms of how it measures up with other vaginas. I certainly never watched my mom exit the shower as a kid and thought, Damn, I hope my vagina looks like that when I get older.

Is it a guy thing? Is it an American Culture thing?

Discuss.

30 comments:

  1. Boys compare. I a 12 & 13 year old and get a pretty regular update on who's growing what where.... I certainly don't wanna hear any of it, but my little G feels like he needs to tell me. I def. think it's an American thing and didn't even give having it done to my boys a second thought. Plus I thought I heard one time that uncircumcized ones can get infected easier. I could be totally wrong about that part though......

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  2. God, could I get any more retarded with my comment?

    It's supposed to say "I have a" (don't want anyone to thing I am a 12 year old boy....)

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  3. I understood you, Tara. :)
    And as far as the infection thing goes, I have heard that too, and it seems that an uncircumcised penis has less than 1% chance more of getting infections than their hooded counterparts.Like I said, I'm glad I didn't have to decide whether or not to circumcise my daughter!

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  4. I can actually remember looking at my moms vagina and thinking "LORD, mine won't grow into something like that WILL IT!!????"

    As far as cutting? For me? No freakin way. It's HIS body part (his most IMPORTANT body part) and I'm leaving it up to him. When he turns (17) TWENTY FIVE and starts sleeping around if he feels funny about the way a girl looks at his dick then HE can go get it cut off. Dear lord it seems no man is happy with his size, how could I go and cut some off!???

    (i don't have a boy either but if I did, well, now you know :P )

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  5. Unnecessary.

    Then again I got my cat's balls chopped off..

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  6. Uncircumcised penises have a higher chance of developing penile cancer from genital warts.

    Penile cancer is almost unheard of in America.

    Google it.

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  7. Please, Jesus, let me never see an uncircumcised weaner for as long as I live.

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  8. Scooter, you have got to be kidding me.

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  9. I struggled with the issue when I was pregnant and thank god I had girls. I think my gut tells me to leave it alone. If they grow it then keep it and if they don't like it then cut it off themselves. Well, have a doctor cut it off. Anyway, I think we all circumcise because that's what everyone does, but when you think about it it's fucked up. We CUT OFF part of a baby's penis for cosmetic purposes. It may be a little harder to keep clean, but if you teach good hygiene then there's no issue. I mean some kids get rotten teeth, but we don't remove them, we teach them to brush. I have heard of customary removal of a girls clitoris, because after all, everyone's doing it in their country.
    The only plus to circumcision besides looking nicer is that a foreskin protects the penis from being desensitized. Most guys could use some extra desensitizing, if you know what I mean.

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  10. Oh, and watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIZLna_uzLQ

    Pen and Teller: circumcision is barbaric mutilation part 1

    I couldn't get through it - listen to the baby scream and tell me it doesn't hurt. It makes me sick.

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  11. Kim, I saw that one. It was really upsetting. Yeah, I tend to agree with what you say, And as for the increased rate of STDs with your foreskin, um, if you use condoms, you shouldn't have to worry about getting anything on your foreskin, anyway.

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  12. Kris, Manatees are getting HPV from scuba divers touching them. To say that HPV is a sexually transmitted disease is to say that contracting a cold from Jeremy is a sexually transmitted disease.

    Do you know how many poker chips have HPV on them? When was the last time you washed your hands BEFORE you went to the bathroom?

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  13. Too much hype for circumsizion which is inaccurate.
    The most important thing that should be considered is this...when a Mum circumcizes her child she is greatly reducing his sexual pleasure[much like customs that perform female circumsizion] and as our sexuality is such a huge part of us,why should a little boy be handicapped from the get go?
    Women should leave their sons penises alone, giving them the choice to make that life altering decision later.

    How would we women like it if our fathers[as is the case in some cultures] reduced our sexual pleasures by giving us female circumsizion?

    Circumsizion is an American custom that is purely for aesthetics.
    Here in Eurpoe most men are not circumsized and would perish at the thought of it. They have more sensitivity,more pleasurable sex and women over here prefer uncircumzised men.

    Risk of cancer[which his minimal] is the justification for doing this unnecessary procedure yet testicular cancer is far more prevalent in men, yet we don't feel the need to rush out and castrate them at 3 days old on a 'justs in case'.



    A person's sexuality is too important and too personal for others to adversely affect it.

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  14. We read all we could on the subject, pros and cons. We just could not justify cutting a perfectly functional part of our baby's body, and had no religious reason to do so. If my memory serves (it's been almost ten years now) the amount of nerve endings are close to or more than that of the clitoris in women...I am opposed to clitoral removal even in its cultural context so how could I do that to my boy? It still was not an easy choice due to the "being different" stuff...but he can always opt for operation later...when he's old enough for a general anesthetic. Until then, he has a reminder every shower to "pull back and wash the tip".

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  15. ...

    Yes, because pulling back and washing the tip is going to prevent a viral infection. Sure.

    Penile. Cancer.

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  16. Scooter, You're right my friend.
    And as a matter of course, we should remove all womens breasts too so we don't have to worry they will get breats cancer, all mens' testicles for obvious cancer reduction risks,plus all ovaries and wombs, then all appendics' and gall bladders just in case....what else?

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  17. See, your argument fails because all of those cancers are not caused by a viral infection that may or may not have a vector caused by sex.

    Penile cancer is caused by HPV. So is cervical cancer, by the way. We can prevent penile cancer (for the most part) with circumcision, and cervical cancer death is on the decline due to pap smears. Cervical cancer rates may decline as well due to HPV vaccines.

    I have fantastic orgasms. I am circumcised. Your argument against circumcision based on diminished sexual pleasure does not stand up to my personal experience.

    So, you are arguing for more infections, more cancer, and ultimately more death.

    I just want to make little infant boys cry.

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  18. Actually, Scooter, HPV (more commonly known as genital warts) does not CAUSE cancer, as the marketers of the new 'wonder vaccine' gardisil will have you believe. Statistics show that a high number of people who develop cervical and penile cancers are infected with HPV, yes, and there is a link, but there is no scientific evidence that this VIRUS CAUSES CANCER. Sorry for the all caps here, but the facts are the facts.

    Circumcising your kid will not prevent penile cancer.

    Fact: 1/3 of the population carries HPV. 1/3 of the population does not develop genital cancer.

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  19. Circumcising my kid will reduce my kid's chances of getting HPV. HPV infections may not result in cancer. They also may result in cancer.

    http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV.html

    Are you suggesting that the CDC is spreading unscientific lies?

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  20. 100 years ago they brought circumcision back, claiming it discouraged masterbation by removing a lot of the nerves and thus making sex less pleasurable. Well, apparently it does make sex less pleasurable, but it doesn't do anything about masterbation. Since then, there has been an endless stream of revisionary reasons why we should STILL circumcise our male babies, and one by one they all fall away eventually. The best advice I can give you is to watch a few circumcisions and see how much pain the boy is in. Sometimes they throw up. Sometimes they pass out. It's not pretty. If that doesn't make up your mind, I don't know what will.

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  21. CDC - a political organization that promotes whatever the prevailing politically correct view happens to be.

    Just sayin'

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  22. I totally misspelled 'masturbation' there, didn't I? Dammit.

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  23. You know, Kim and I are the only people in this whole thing to cite any sources what so ever.

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  24. Scooter, it seems like you are just trying to justify torturing a kid!! Sicko! Def. don't bother with circumcision, it's an "American" thing, purely for aesthetics. Oh and citing the CDC? HA!!!!!

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  25. Instead of being a bitch I decided to site sources. Look at me being a grown up!

    'Recent policy statements issued by professional societies representing Australian, Canadian, and American pediatricians do not recommend routine circumcision of male newborns.The most recent statement by the American Academy of Pediatrics reads as follows: "Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision.'

    This is from the AMA.

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  26. Ok, citing the AMA is good. However, what is with the hate for the CDC? Just disparaging the CDC doesn't work. If it did work, I could just say "Oh yeah, like the AMA knows anything".

    See how that looks?

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  27. Here's a great documentary on circumcision, created by a Jewish guy, it's kinda anti circumcision, but examined respectfully http://www.cutthefilm.com/Cut_Website/The_Film.html

    Vegas Lindy Lou, uncircumcised weanises look the same as circumcised ones when they're hard, I was with an uncircumcised dude for months and didn't know it because I never saw it flacid. Now that I have an uncircumcised son I've gotten used to it and want to cry when I see the weird circumcised boys, which are increasingly rare in canada now.

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  28. Here I'm Scooter, here's a good anti-circ source from a respectable mdeical body

    https://www.cpsbc.ca/files/u6/Circumcision-Infant-Male.pdf

    (I live in BC, where circumcision is becoming a fringe practice practiced most majorly by religious folks)

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